Kelvyn
Guest

Post by Guest on Mar 11, 2014 at 5:28pm

FIRST: It doesn't take four people to respond to stuff, Bill.
We are a TEAM and we work collaboratively and the discussions within the team, exchange of emails and by snail mail other material all remain within the team (an issue that perhaps escapes you is that a TEAM works as a team).

SECOND: And Just to be clear about the Tramway on the eastern side - this tramway does reach a point along its length where to avoid boggy/floodable land to the north of the Team's site, and as it approaches your site moves to the centre/western side of the road reserve and soon thereafter reaches a point where logs were able to be easily removed from their point of felling by ground haulage to the nearest tramway and where they could be placed on a log wagon for transfer to the mill. So this tramway "base" is now obliterated (the high mound is still visible though) as the eventual formation of the road went over this part of the tramway.
And yes as I said the Team also found the bed of a second tramway further across to the west.

AND
I recall (and it was not you but someone else - I think it was Horrie who seems to be well out of touch with the precinct, who recently made a statement that a pipe was under the SBC Road; and that the area was a "mess" (or words to that effect).
Well I will put this to rest as both statements are absolute rubbish.
Having arranged for an inspection of the roadway during the recent long break I can absolutely say there is NO PIPE, BUT there is a significant water diversion channel at the low point of the down slope (the one the Herald's reporter describes in his article which you do not agree fits either the Team's precinct, nor is obvious in the surveyed long section along the road reserve. Clearly the channel diverts water flow from the edge of the western side of the road and from the road itself to drain the flow away onto the eastern side of the road. Yes that's the water flow from the spring discharge(s) we identified some time back.
The SPRING referred to by NED.

And as for huts - just a general observation for others to consider:
The Team is now aware of remains of huts - ie rock piles in a number of locations - on the western side of the creek, to the south of the Team's site (these are your ones) and NNW of the Kelly tree (a convenient marker for the purpose of descriptive directions).

Hooroo

 

bill
Junior Member

Posts: 54

Post by bill on Mar 11, 2014 at 7:50pm

At - NKF forum boards the CSI team must be getting Poorflower to make postings because there are graphs on which two huts fireplaces are shown.
nedkellyforum.boards.net/thread/17/where-police-camp-stringybark-creek?page=9  

The postings by Poorflower reads, "For the consortium collaborators, code is 32"
Someone must be going to mount another tricky angle to show the two huts site is wrong!

For all those collaborators there is a secret code? But not for us, only collaborators.

Poorflower then gives instructions - "grid-portrait-a4-1cm-noidex.pdf"

Next Poorflower posts a huge list public institutions and societies with the heading -
"Some Scientific facts about SBC for consideration by the following organisations"

Read more at: nedkellyforum.boards.net/thread/17/where-police-camp-stringybark-creek?page=10#ixzz2vdqxXbTs

Now regarding Kelvyn's Spring, please see the picture below.
www.ironicon.com.au/images/sbc-geology-the-real-spring.jpg  Click here for full size image

Next time I am up there I will get a picture of the CSI@SBC spring pipe under the road Kel.
Bill

 

Last Edit: Mar 11, 2014 at 8:02pm by bill

Locoweed
Guest

Post by Guest on Mar 11, 2014 at 8:39pm

Pooflower is away with the fairies.
 

I am who I say I am
Guest

Post by Guest on Mar 12, 2014 at 9:23am

Very well Mr. Denheld
Now explain to the readers (In simple terminology) where exactly YOUR spring can to be found? Does it flow all year round? I'm intrigued.

Poor flower.
I'm even more intrigued with YOUR code is 32. How must we apply the code? 
Brian
 

bill
Junior Member

Post by bill on Mar 12, 2014 at 10:10am

Yes Brian, The Spring flows past the two huts site all year round, while a few hundred metres up the gully* you will find no running water at all.

*(beyond the discharge point)

Bill

Last Edit: Mar 12, 2014 at 10:18am by bill

Brian
Guest

Post by Guest on Mar 12, 2014 at 10:45am

Mr. Denheld,
Understood, or so it appears I do.
Is this the same body of water that flows to the east of the hut sites? more commonly known as "stringy bark crk"


 

Locoweed
Guest

Post by Guest on Mar 12, 2014 at 1:25pm

Brian's attempt at drollery is excruciating.


 

Kelvyn
Guest

Post by Guest on Mar 12, 2014 at 2:50pm

"At - NKF forum boards the CSI team must be getting Poorflower to make postings because there are graphs on which two huts fireplaces are shown."

DON'T YOU EVER STOP WITH YOUR CRAP BILL ?
THE CSI TEAM HAS NO CONNECTION WHATSOEVER WITH POORFLOWER REPEAT: NO CONNECTION WHATSOEVER. JUST IN CASE YOU HAVE TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING THIS FACT (ADVISED TO YOU PREVIOUS OCCASIONS) HERE IT IS AGAIN: NO CSI TEAM MEMBER HAS ANY CONNECTION WITH POORFLOWER !!!!!!!!!

YOU ARE CLEARLY DEMONSTRATING YOUR PARANOIA ABOUT THE CSI TEAM.

42 IS THE ANSWER TO LIFE, THE UNIVERSE AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND BY DEDUCTING 10 IT BECOMES 32 SO THIS MAY HELP YOU WORK OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.

UNFORTUNATELY I WILL CONTINUE TO WASTE GOOD POSTING SPACE RESPONDING TO YOUR PARANOIAC POSTINGS.

Brian
Guest

Post by Guest on Mar 12, 2014 at 3:06pm

Locoweed,
Constructive feedback will be appreciated. No need for petty replies.  

Admin, enough is enough. We have now reached a stage where such posts should not accepted. Unrelated or nonsense post to be deleted immediately. I'm building my case for and against both the csi team and Bill's site. It would be a complete waste to have this forum continually sabotaged by uneducated fools.

Feel free to delete this post upon deleting above said posts.  
 

Locoweed
Guest

Post by Guest on Mar 12, 2014 at 3:16pm

OMG. Kelvyn has been out in the sun too long with his divining rod and copy of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. No wonder you can't find the SBC Police Camp, Kel !

Pooflower's whole grasp of the universe is squint.

You are all a bunch of weird hippies.

 

Locoweed
Guest

Post by Guest on Mar 12, 2014 at 3:30pm

Brian, you are having a lend of me. It was you that said earlier that Bill was 90% wrong. Someone picked you up on that and asked "which 90% was wrong". You never replied.

How can you be building a case for Bill if you think he is 90% wrong?

Dee
Administrator

Post by Dee on Mar 12, 2014 at 4:23pm

Thanks Brian. I really hate deleting Posts when people are just being childish. It makes me feel like the Nasty School teacher constantly shouting at the class to behave.The posts I don't hesitate to delete are the malicious ones, but the others - well I think we should just ignore most of them and focus on making positive contributions to a debate. However I will keep your suggestions in mind.

I keep hoping you will all grow up and stop being silly! Perhaps I am being naive and over-optimistic!

Brian
Guest

Post by Guest on Mar 12, 2014 at 5:02pm

Locoweed,
That someone is as you are fully aware, none other than Horrie. "wink, wink" read my post again and try to make some attempt to understand what I'm actually saying.
Yes, it is my opinion that Bill has failed to ID the correct site. Understand this I am not having a go at Bill nor am I defending the csi team.

A few weeks back I photocopied the csi's report [from slv] and mind you from what I have read is far more convincing and structural. FYI: A visit to the hut site last weekend proved to be a worthy exercise.
The object of the visit was to carefully study the following points.

1. Creek/spring**
2. Huts** 
3. Kelly tree
4. Tent**  
5. Log orientation**
.........................................
** CSI + Bill's site + McIntyre
......................................... 

Needless to say there isn't enough time in the day and therefore my work continues. Until such time please be patient and allow me to ask questions.
Thank you.   

Brian
Guest

Post by Guest on Mar 12, 2014 at 5:07pm

You are all a bunch of weird hippies.
Bravo Coco. Time to lay off the weed, don't ya think 


 

Glenn
Guest

Post by Guest on Mar 12, 2014 at 5:09pm

Bill,

You may use as much technical jargon as you like regarding the spring. As discussed previously. Here and on the SBC forum.

Obviously you will not accept what others say. The outcome remains the same.

I gather you are now trying to divert the attention away from my previous (2) posts.

Avoidance = ??

With you tent located in the N/W corner of the clearing (the most suitable location at your site) places it on the left of the logs.

This does not accord with McIntyre’s descriptions or scaled diagram. No East /West log on the left of the tent.


Thomas McIntyre-
"Standing at the tent entrance and facing the creek there was upon the left front a felled tree nearly 4ft in diameter, at the thickest part.It lay nearly east and west.

About midway this log was joined by another which lay due north and south and terminated where it joined the other.

These two logs thus formed two right angles, the point of junction being about 25 yards from the tent."



The tent location you have shown does it match the scaled map within your conclusions -Stringybark Creek The Authentic Location (Page 36)

nor the locations on page 16, 17, 20. It also places the tent within the Green angles as shown page 28.

Nor does it coincide with diagrams shown within the Peter Fitzsimons book. In addition none of the diagrams show the tent pitched behind any hut.

Obvious errors throughout. Another major flaw in your prefferred location which I am sure you are fully aware.

It really is time to let it go now.

Glenn

bill
Junior Member

Post by bill on Mar 12, 2014 at 5:50pm

Glenn, put your 'Stuff Up' !

Brian
Guest

Post by Guest on Mar 12, 2014 at 6:31pm

Mar 12, 2014 at 10:45am Brian said:

Mr. Denheld,
Understood, or so it appears I do.
Is this the same body of water that flows to the east of the hut sites? more commonly known as "stringy bark crk"
Bill,

My last question still remains unanswered. Is there a need for me to repeat it again?

Glenn
Guest

Post by Guest on Mar 12, 2014 at 7:31pm

Why Bill ?

As you have already said:
Quote: "The CSI @sbc report - for what I show is 90% of their final and if I show the rest it is even more ridiculous than the issue I show which is bad enough."

But then you also said:

Quote: "If we all continue to tell lies, what do we learn from history?"

Which is it?

 

Glenn
Guest

Post by Guest on Mar 12, 2014 at 7:42pm

Bill,

which 10% would you like me to put up?

In the meantime please answer Brian's question.

Thank you.
 

Horrie
Guest

Post by Guest on Mar 12, 2014 at 8:41pm

CSI are too scared to post details of their updated site in case everyone bursts into laughter.

Wake me